Only one EV charger at home?!...

[Ed Lee]

On Friday, April 21, 2023 at 4:58:08 PM UTC-7, micky wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 20 Apr 2023 21:29:58 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
hami...@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-04-20, Carlos E.R. <robin_...@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-04-20 22:07, M Nelson wrote:
On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 2:00:13?PM UTC-4, Carlos E.R. wrote:
Please do not remove group names. I restored them.

I don\'t know what that refers to. I don\'t recall removing anything.

You did it again.

If he\'s posting through Google Groups, they don\'t give him any choice.
He can only post to the newsgroup where he\'s reading.

That\'s why grown-ups should not be posting through google groups.

Freedom of expression includes the freedom not to express. We, google groupers, have unique political views that are not suitable for other people. We prefer not to spread them to other groups. You have the right to add them to other groups and we have the right not to.

 

[rbowman]

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 10:29:50 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

FFS I first used USENET in 1985...on a DEC VAX, connected by UUCP over a
modem

I was really styling, connecting to a BBS with 300 baud over an acoustic
coupler...

 

[rbowman]

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 10:27:55 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 21/04/2023 18:25, rbowman wrote:
On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 13:11:37 +0100, Max Demian wrote:

On 21/04/2023 02:31, rbowman wrote:
On Thu, 20 Apr 2023 10:27:04 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Not arf as uneasy as power assisted brakes that lose power
assistance.

Ever drive a car with mechanical brakes? It\'s a good thing they could
go all that fast.

Do you mean hydraulic but not power assisted? The hydraulics have a
different \"gearing\" (I don\'t know the proper word) so the force you
have to apply is still reasonable. I had a Mk I Escort like that. It
had drum brakes all round too. OK, but if you went through a puddle
(or just drove it in heavy rain) water would get into the drums and I
would have to go along with my left foot on the brake pedal to dry it
out.

No, I meant drum brakes operated by rods:

What about cables?

https://www.hemmings.com/stories/2014/07/08/what-stops-them-sings-the-
praises-of-cable-controlled-brakes

The earliest Chevrolet I\'ve driven was a \'51 and Chevy had went hydraulic
by then. I had a \'55 Harley with a cable actuated front brake. That may
explain why US bikers of the era only used the rear brake, which was rod
operated. The choppers usually took them off altogether.

The \'51 Chev would have been better off with cables. It was obvious the
master cylinder had been bolted to the frame before the body was put on.
There was a small access port with a cover under the rug on the drivers
side but getting the assembly out to replace the seal was a miserable job.

 

[rbowman]

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 07:50:36 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts wrote:

Certainly using a gear to decend will be no worse than climbing the hill
in that gear at the same speed.

The rule of thumb for semis is to use the same gear going up or down. If
you had to shift down enough to climb the grade at 28 mph there is
probably a good reason you only want to go down the other side at 28 mph
if you don\'t have a jake brake.

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 22/04/2023 19:10, rbowman wrote:

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 10:29:50 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

FFS I first used USENET in 1985...on a DEC VAX, connected by UUCP over a
modem

I was really styling, connecting to a BBS with 300 baud over an acoustic
coupler...

That came a little later for me.

Then we moved into selling UUCP connections to the internet (such as it
was) for mail and news .



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How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don\'t think.

Adolf Hitler

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 22/04/2023 13:39, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2023-04-21 15:51, NY wrote:
On 21/04/2023 13:59, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2023-04-21, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:


The only car that I just could not get to grips with was a diesel VW
Golf. Not sure which Mark but it had the older Pumpe Duse engine
rather than the present HDi-type engine. I\'m used to driving diesels,
and I know that it is difficult to stall them: at worst then engine
will just labour a bit and fail to accelerate. Even petrols do this,
though the point at which they start to labour may be at a higher
engine speed so they are a bit less forgiving.

This car was different. There was something about it (maybe some weird
programming in the engine-management system) that meant that if you
didn\'t apply quite enough power, the engine would stall completely as
if the fuel had been cut off (*). No warning signs to give you chance
to apply slightly more power, to dip the clutch slightly or to change
down. Just a toddler\'s approach of throwing its toys out of the pram
if you didn\'t get it right. Despite being used to driving diesels,
I\'ve never stalled a petrol engined car. But I repeatedly stalled that
diesel VW at almost every time where I had to set off from rest. And
it wasn\'t just that car that was badly-adjusted. I tried another one
with the same engine a while later to see if it was as bad as I
remembered. The sales assistant said the almost everyone stalls that
engine until they get used to it. Not a very good advert for the car ;-)

I chose another car instead.

Some diesels have a much smaller engine than a traditional diesel. I had
one like that, an Opel Corsa. The motor had only 1248 cubic centimetres
of displacement (yet rated at 70KW power).

Thats a mid range car!

Small is 600 cc!


And a turbo. Thus at low rpm

the engine had little torque, something that I noticed in the mountains.
In some steep places, even in 1st gear it had no acceleration.

70kW is around 100bhp. That\'s pretty decent.

But early turbodiesels had a very narrow power band. I drove a two lire
Ford Mondeo turbodiesl as a hire once. Nothing under 2000rpm Nothing
over 4000 rpm. Horrid car.
Because my car has twin turbos, the main turbo comes in around 1200rpm
and the second at around 3000. Very smooth if a little laggy.,

In the highway, that car had much better acceleration than my current
gasoline Opel Corsa (66KW, no turbo, 1398 cc)

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fill the world with fools.”

Herbert Spencer

 

[Peeler]

On 22 Apr 2023 18:10:01 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

I was really styling, connecting to a BBS with 300 baud over an acoustic
coupler...

Yes, \"exciting\"! Just like everything you eagerly keep telling us about your
gorgeous personality, you sick senile gossip! <BG>

--
Self-admiring lowbrowwoman telling everyone yet another \"thrilling\" story
about her grand life:
\"In a role reversal my mother taught her father to drive. She was in the
back seat when he took his first test, trying a little telepathy: \"release
the handbrake. release the handbrake\'. He didn\'t, stalled the engine and
failed. The next time went better.\"
MID: <kafp0uF6vi1U5@mid.individual.net>

 

[Peeler]

On 22 Apr 2023 18:26:03 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


> The earliest Chevrolet I\'ve driven was a \'51 and Chevy had went hydraulic

Oh, gosh! It starts again...

--
And yet another idiotic \"cool\" line, this time about the UK, from the
resident bigmouthed all-American superhero:
\"You could dump the entire 93,628 square miles in eastern Montana and only
the prairie dogs would notice.\"
MID: <ka2vrlF6c5uU1@mid.individual.net>

 

[Peeler]

On 22 Apr 2023 19:07:08 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

The rule of thumb for semis is to use the same gear going up or down. If
you had to shift down enough to climb the grade at 28 mph there is
probably a good reason you only want to go down the other side at 28 mph
if you don\'t have a jake brake.

If ONLY you\'d break your jaw some time, you pathological bigmouth!

--
More of the pathological senile gossip\'s sick shit squeezed out of his sick
head:
\"Skunk probably tastes like chicken. I\'ve never gotten that comparison,
most famously with Chicken of the Sea. Tuna is a fish and tastes like a
fish. I will admit I\'ve had chicken that tasted like fish. I don\'t think I
want to know what they were feeding it.\"
MID: <k44t5lFl1k3U4@mid.individual.net>

 

[Rod Speed]

On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 05:07:08 +1000, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 07:50:36 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts wrote:

Certainly using a gear to decend will be no worse than climbing the hill
in that gear at the same speed.

The rule of thumb for semis is to use the same gear going up or down. If
you had to shift down enough to climb the grade at 28 mph there is
probably a good reason you only want to go down the other side at 28 mph
if you don\'t have a jake brake.

That simplistically assumes the same slope on each side.

 

[rbowman]

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 19:53:35 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Thats a mid range car!

Small is 600 cc!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGr0oifJMEI

Even the Fiat Topolino can be a suitable ride with a few small
modifications.

https://www.dragzine.com/news/fierce-fiat-rob-rizzolis-blown-1937-fiat-
topolino/


My smallest bikes are 650 cc.... One is a thumper and not designed for
speed but the V-Strom goes as fast as I need to go.

 

[Lasse Langwadt Christensen]

søndag den 23. april 2023 kl. 01.08.13 UTC+2 skrev rbowman:

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 19:53:35 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Thats a mid range car!

Small is 600 cc!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGr0oifJMEI

Even the Fiat Topolino can be a suitable ride with a few small
modifications.

https://www.dragzine.com/news/fierce-fiat-rob-rizzolis-blown-1937-fiat-
topolino/


My smallest bikes are 650 cc.... One is a thumper and not designed for
speed but the V-Strom goes as fast as I need to go.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kei_car

 

[rbowman]

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 20:02:36 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Then we moved into selling UUCP connections to the internet (such as it
was) for mail and news .

I\'d been on Delphi with a dialup connection that sort of had an internet
connection.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delphi_(online_service)

Then a couple of guys started up a service that was a little more direct.
You paid for a Unix shell account and they gave you a diskette with TIA
(The Internet Adaptor), Trumpet Winsock since Windows 3.1 didn\'t do TCP/
IP, Netscape Navigator 1.0, and wished you good luck.

They sold the business and it became a little more professional. They even
had a NNTP server of sorts but individual.net at the Freie Universitat
Berlin worked a lot better. It was free then but when it went to 10 Euros
a year I kept it. The local ISP dropped usenet eventually because of the
resources required to support it.

 

[micky]

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 21 Apr 2023 02:49:11 +0200, \"Carlos E.R.\"
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

We have never done it like that, just use normal unmodified
cars, both when learning in your own car and when using
the car provided by the driving school..

AFAIK, that is forbidden here.

In the UK, manual driving school cars usually have a brake and clutch on
the passenger side and the instructor is trained in methods to grab the
wheel, while knocking the pupil\'s hand away from the wheel (two
different moves, depending upon which way the instructor needs to steer).

Yes.

My instructor died doing that. He saved the life of the student, pulling
the steering wheel and avoiding crashing against an incoming car, but
crashed into a lamppost instead (at the pavement on the right side of
the street). He entered the hospital on his own foot, but died hours
later of internal injuries. Ruptured liver, I think.

He did not appear at the agreed place to collect me for the class. I
went back home, somewhat fuming, then phoned the driving school asking
why he did not appear. He is dead, they said.

Blaam! Bummer.

Wow.

Anyone with a licence that they have had for at least 3 years and being
over 21, can instruct a learner in a normal, unmodified car. The learner
can take the test in an unmodified car, but most use their instructor\'s
driving school car.


The have a sensor on the pedals. If the instructor has to use the pedals
during the exam, a beeper sounds and the student is failed immediately.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

 

[Peeler]

On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 09:05:17 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin\'s latest trollshit unread>

--
Kerr-Mudd,John addressing the auto-contradicting senile cretin:
\"Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)\"
MID: <XnsA97071CF43E3Fadmin127001@85.214.115.223>

 

[Peeler]

On 22 Apr 2023 23:08:06 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGr0oifJMEI

Even the Fiat Topolino can be a suitable ride with a few small
modifications.

https://www.dragzine.com/news/fierce-fiat-rob-rizzolis-blown-1937-fiat-
topolino/

My smallest bikes are 650 cc.... One is a thumper and not designed for
speed but the V-Strom goes as fast as I need to go.

NOTHING, I repeat, NOTHING goes as fast as your mouth, you abnormal senile
bigmouth!

--
Yet more of the very interesting senile blather by lowbrowwoman:
\"I save my fries quota for one of the local food trucks that offers
poutine every now and then. If you\'re going for a coronary might as well
do it right.\"
MID: <ivdi4gF8btlU1@mid.individual.net>

 

[Peeler]

On 22 Apr 2023 23:30:00 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


> I\'d been on Delphi with a dialup connection that sort of had an internet

Oh, fuck! The idiotic senile blather starts again...

<FLUSH another load of the inevitable senile crap unread again>

--
Yet more of the abnormal senile gossiping by the resident senile gossip:
\"I never understood how they made a living but the space where the local
party store was is now up for lease. It probably was more than helium. I
often walk over the the adjacent market to get something for dinner and
people stuffing balloons in their cars was a common sight. No more. I\'ve
no idea if there is another store in town.\"
MID: <kafs2nF6vi1U15@mid.individual.net>

 

[Carlos E.R.]

On 2023-04-23 01:05, Rod Speed wrote:

On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 05:07:08 +1000, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 07:50:36 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts wrote:

Certainly using a gear to decend will be no worse than climbing the hill
in that gear at the same speed.

The rule of thumb for semis is to use the same gear going up or down. If
you had to shift down enough to climb the grade at 28 mph there is
probably a good reason you only want to go down the other side at 28 mph
if you don\'t have a jake brake.

That simplistically assumes the same slope on each side.

No, that you are going down using the same road :-D

--
Cheers, Carlos.

 

[Carlos E.R.]

On 2023-04-22 20:53, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 22/04/2023 13:39, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2023-04-21 15:51, NY wrote:
On 21/04/2023 13:59, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2023-04-21, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:


The only car that I just could not get to grips with was a diesel VW
Golf. Not sure which Mark but it had the older Pumpe Duse engine
rather than the present HDi-type engine. I\'m used to driving diesels,
and I know that it is difficult to stall them: at worst then engine
will just labour a bit and fail to accelerate. Even petrols do this,
though the point at which they start to labour may be at a higher
engine speed so they are a bit less forgiving.

This car was different. There was something about it (maybe some
weird programming in the engine-management system) that meant that if
you didn\'t apply quite enough power, the engine would stall
completely as if the fuel had been cut off (*). No warning signs to
give you chance to apply slightly more power, to dip the clutch
slightly or to change down. Just a toddler\'s approach of throwing its
toys out of the pram if you didn\'t get it right. Despite being used
to driving diesels, I\'ve never stalled a petrol engined car. But I
repeatedly stalled that diesel VW at almost every time where I had to
set off from rest. And it wasn\'t just that car that was
badly-adjusted. I tried another one with the same engine a while
later to see if it was as bad as I remembered. The sales assistant
said the almost everyone stalls that engine until they get used to
it. Not a very good advert for the car ;-)

I chose another car instead.

Some diesels have a much smaller engine than a traditional diesel. I
had one like that, an Opel Corsa. The motor had only 1248 cubic
centimetres of displacement (yet rated at 70KW power).

Thats a mid range car!

Small is 600 cc!

Remember: diesel.

For a diesel, that\'s small.

And a turbo. Thus at low rpm
the engine had little torque, something that I noticed in the
mountains. In some steep places, even in 1st gear it had no acceleration.

70kW is around 100bhp. That\'s pretty decent.

But early turbodiesels had a very narrow power band. I drove a two lire
Ford Mondeo turbodiesl as a hire once. Nothing under 2000rpm Nothing
over 4000 rpm. Horrid car.
Because my car has twin turbos, the main turbo comes in around 1200rpm
and the second at around 3000. Very smooth if a little laggy.,


In the highway, that car had much better acceleration than my current
gasoline Opel Corsa (66KW, no turbo, 1398 cc)

--
Cheers, Carlos.

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 23/04/2023 13:21, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2023-04-22 20:53, The Natural Philosopher wrote:


Small is 600 cc!

Remember: diesel.

For a diesel, that\'s small.

For a diesel, 0.3cc is small

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJFxAKAgeSo



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let them.\"